Posts by johnny cip

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Governing Body claims title to Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls

by garybuss in

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governing body claims title to kingdom halls and assembly halls.

i'm told this is what the new "organized" book says about real estate on page 16: "what then are the "belongings"?

these are all the spiritual assets on earth that have become christ's property in connection with his authority as heavenly king.

I really blew it......I am the nightmare householder!

by Why Georgia in

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i really blew it yesterday.

we had just gotten home from a very long day and we were contemplating what to do for dinner and then a knock at the door.

the sister was back with an elder and he asked to speak to my husband...completely got his name wrong.

if this wt zombie is sitting in a parking lot across from your house. i would bring him out a glass of KOOL AID . and some cookies. then ream his ass out some more . i wouldn't stop blasting him till chokes on his cookies. i would also go out side with a camera. and let him see you taking pictures of him. or call the police and tell them so and so has been following you around and harrassing you. either one should stop it. even better go to the police and file a complaint about this guy ,for times past. then next time he's in the parking lot. call the cops . and tell them he's still following you . nothing like 3 cop cars coming into your parking lot. to see what he's doing sitting there looking in your windows.. john

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So how do I do this & get it right?

by Why Georgia in

tomorrow i will be mailing my special do not call, come by, or mail our family anything letter to new york.

i was told i should also send the same letter to all the local congregations we were once affiliated with.. i did this when we lived at our old address and the letter to the local kh came back returned for having no mailbox.. so how am i supposed to get the letters to them?.

any idea's?.

johnny cip

mail a regestered letter to the kh, brooklyn, and your local police. or even go to your local police and make a complaint. going to the police station and making a filed complaint. is your strongest legal move. tell the cops they have harrassed your family many times. after you asked them not to over and over to leave you alone. they are imposing . one your civil rights, legal rights of liberty, and your rights of freedom of religion etc. you can even try to ask for an order of protection . for them to keep away from you. but this will take time and another knock on your door by them. if you play it right with the police and cry the blues that some elder . his been on your tail over and over . the cops may even go to tell him to back off. don't be nice let these jerks know you know your right's. and it don't cost you a dime. good luck. johnv p.s. make the police report first and mail copies to brooklyn.once they see you filed. they will call the local jackasses. and tell them to forget you ever lived. i only tell you this if you really want to bust their balls before your dog eats them. i understand how jw's can piss you off. but you can piss them off even worse if you want to . it's up to you . be well john

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I really blew it......I am the nightmare householder!

by Why Georgia in

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friends

i really blew it yesterday.

we had just gotten home from a very long day and we were contemplating what to do for dinner and then a knock at the door.

the sister was back with an elder and he asked to speak to my husband...completely got his name wrong.

johnny cip

georgia; i wouldn't worry about them coming back. i know your upset about going off on them. but there is no better way to get rid of them. they can't handle someone that stands up for them selves. i have experence. blowing them out. when they see me walking down the street they run the other way. they only understand one thing. you calling them out. trust me they got the message. and if they didn't for some reason. give it to them again. and call the cops on them while thay are at your door. let them explain to the police why they are harrassing you... make their lives a living hell every time you see one of them in the street or at the market. embarrass them at every chance. and they will never bother you again . great work and be even nastier next time. john

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B.C. cancer patient still seeking care in U.S.

by ezekiel3 in

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/articlenews/story/ctvnews/1115906797052_19/?hub=canada

cancer patient still seeking care in u.s.

ctv.ca news staff.

johnny cip

WHAT CHARITIES ARE GOING TO PAY FOR HER TREATMENT? THE RED CROSS? SURELY NOT THE WTBTS THAT IS REGESTERIED AS A CHARITY. AND U.S. CITIZENS COULD HELP PAY ? FROM THE TAX $$$$$$$$$$$$ THESE HOSPITALS GET FROM THE U.S. GOV'T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A LINE OF $&IT THE WT COMES UP WITH . I HATE TO SAY THIS . BUT I HOPE . ALL THE JW'S THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL THIS GIRL DIE ON THE FLIGHT TO N.Y.C AND THE GIRL LIVES. TO BE 99.

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Wife arranging for me to study with a brother! I need a plan!

by M.J. in

here's the situation.

my wife couldn't answer some deep issues i've raised regarding a few of the wts's teachings and dishonest representation of historical sources.

naturally, she attributes her lack of answers to her own lack of research and knowledge.

johnny cip

mj buster makes some very importaqnt points. DO NOT HAVE A BOOK STUDY!!!!!!!!! ask HIM if he has researched that the fds was choosen after a 3 1/2 year inspection from 1914 to 1918. to be jehovahs mouth peice onj earth get him to answer YES. NOW HE IS COMMITTED. TO BE CALLED A LAIR. now start hitting him with all the old stuff that you have found. every time he tries to discount what you have. ask him was this proper spritual food at the proper time? ie. the world to end in 1914 15 18 etc. black ppl will become white etc. hold him to each point and keep asking JEHOVAH'S SPRIT WAS LEADING THE WT TO TEACH THIS ? HE WILL MELT IN 20 MINUTES..,if he says your info is bogus. remind him he told you he researched all this stuff before . NOW HE'S CAUGHT IN THE LIE!!!!!!!. tell him since he researched all of this . he is welcome to bring over all the original wt's till 1919 . to show you were what you have found are incorrect. MAKE HIM BACK UP JESUS CHOOSE THE WT IN 1918/19 . FROM OLD WT BOOKS. TELL HIM YOU WANT TO BE AS CONVINCED AS JESUS WAS IN 1914-18. . in the end he will admitt he has never really studied more that a page or 2 of early 1900 wt material.. this is an easy stump the chump. i'd have this guy crying after a half hour. and you have to do the same. keep him on the wt and keep him out of the bible. mAKE HIM BACK EVERY REFERENCE. WITH ORIGINALS. i'm sure if you do it right. you can show your wife that no jw, can prove jesus choose the wt in 1918/9 to be the true religion. ( and that's the whole point of the tuesday night book study). just hold his feet to the fire. and he will melt like a marshmellow. happy hunting. shooting fish in a barrell... john

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When you see a JW or two on the street, do you ignore them or speak tothem?

by Rod P in

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most of the time i just walk on by.

i just can't be bothered, and they are not going to believe what i say anyway.

besides, should i tell them i am disfellowshipped, which may scare them away?

johnny cip

i allways engauge any jw i find. i waist no time . the first thing i ask "have you checked all the references and you know every thing is truth in this mag you are handing out"? they will say yes. then i scan the mag. there may be a quote from the catholic dictonary or the new york times or some old wt mag etc. . then i ask did you lookn this up? they will say no. but you just told me you tested all the references. at this point they know they have lied to me. i keep pushing. it's up to them how much they can take. sometimes they are nice other times not. i pick the subjects and control the conversation . twisting them at every turn. i make sure i plant some seeds. when they ask me if i was ever a jw. i tell them my standards for truth, honesty and god are to high . to ever let me become a jw. if they try to interject. i remind them you were dishonest , about your presentation. so how can i trust you. talking to a jw on the street is like shooting fish in a barrel. they allways stumble away. john

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Would you care to join?

by RR in

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all you have to do is answer this "simple" questionaire

xxxxx has applied to join worldwide brotherhood on the web.. .

since your group is set up with a restricted membership, you must approve the application before xxxxx can join and participate in the group.

johnny cip

i'll guess RR 's next post will be about how easy it's to join the dawn bible students. that russell is the mouth piece of jehovah. and how jesus returned in 1874. RR are the bible students still teaching the typewriter, telegraph, steam loccmotive are all proofs that the time of the end started in 1799? john

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Have The Reputation THEY Think They Have?

by minimus in

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witnesses believe they are special.

the publications give many examples of how wonderful a witness was viewed upon by a "worldly" person.

kms tell of how so many praise the witnesses for being so "different".....what would you say is the real way people view jws??

johnny cip

most people look at jw's like dopes. and have no intrest in what they have to say. i've been watching for years. i also find jw's asking worldly people for advice on everyday living. knowing they waisted there time and $$$$$ selling bogus mag's instead of thinking of thier retirement years.

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Did you know of any JWs fighting in the Kingdom Hall or arguing in the KH?

by booker-t in

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this might sound funny but i have heard many stories of jw's fighting in the kh bathroom or arguing.

i remember an elder's wife who was having alot of medical problems cursed out another sister in the bathroom.

she called her everything but the kitchen sink i was told by another sister that was in the bathroom when this altercation took place.

johnny cip

about 1970 when my dad first became a jw. the whole family would go to the hall. sometimes. one sunday my mom went with dad and my little brother and sister about 8yrs old and me. i was sitting in the back with mom (we never became jw's). after the meeting we heard my little bro crying. so mom went over to find out what happened. some sister claimed that my brother was picking on her little angel jw son at school. and my dad smacked him in the face for picking on the kid. when mom asked what happened the jw zombie said some crap about my brother , and dad gave him another smack in the face. mom said your fucking kid is a dope and always in the principals office. then mom punched her right in the face. POW !!!!!!! then mom said say another word and i'll kick your ass all over the floor... well that wt zombie. opened her mouth . and my mom started punching her , pushed her to the floor and started pulling her hair out. dad pulled mom off of her. mom had a hand full of hair when it was over. then told her if you ever talk about my son again . i'll kick your ass out in the street were no one can stop it. dad went home alone. we took the bus to white castles and had hamburgers. mom ended up with a ripped blouse and a few scraches. the jw looked like she got hit by a car. p.s. the funny thing is mom just reminded me of this spritual bout. about a few weeks ago , at a family party. while she was calling all the jw's motherf*ckers. this happened at the north east bronx cong. gunhill road about 35 yrs ago